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Collider: Boyd Crowder got lucky, not having to go to prison at the end of last season. Where is his head at, this season?
WALTON GOGGINS: For a fellow like Boyd, he understands that there’s going to be a price to be paid for eating this dinner, and for living this life. At the end of last season, he thought that his time had come. For him, it had just come a little too early because he wasn’t ready to say goodbye to the love of his life (Ava Crowder). And as fate would have it, gratefully for this couple, he was spared at the last minute and someone else took the blame for it. So this season, I think he’s working very, very hard to get his ducks in a row, for a very specific reason. I won’t tell you what that reason is, but it will be revealed, over the course of the show. Boyd has an endgame, and I think it’s worthy of working as hard as he’s working.
Last season, Boyd was a bit more serious because he had to spend a lot of time trying to get his crew together and figuring out what he wanted to do. Is it refreshing to have more of his sense of humor back, this season?
GOGGINS: Yeah, and now is the season for that to happen. We really wanted to get back to his ironic, pessimistic sense of humor. It’s really Elmore Leonard’s sense of humor. It’s the way that he constructs humor and infuses his narratives with humor. Hopefully, it’s delivered in a way where you’re not sure if you’re supposed to laugh, but you laugh because you are supposed to laugh. We’ve had a really good time with that, so far this season. Boyd is having a good time. Some of it is a little hard, but for the most part, he’s having a really good time.
Would you say that, at this point, he’s enjoying being a crime boss, or has it become more of a hassle than he ever really bargained for?
GOGGINS: Well, I think that it’s both. There’s a dual response to that question. One of my favorites lines that Boyd had, in the first episode of the season, and it’s one of my favorite lines that he’s uttered in his fourth-year incarnation, was, “I’m a criminal.” He just says it. It’s three words. If somebody has that clarity about who they are, as a person, there’s only really one way to go. Well, maybe there’s two ways to go. Either you continue to be a criminal, or you try to segueway out of being a criminal. But for right now, I think Boyd is grateful and has worked very hard to finally rise to the top of the heap in Harlan County. Unfortunately, when you’re the king of the hill, there’s really only one way to go, and that’s down. We’ll see how that plays out, over the course of the season. But, I think it’s a little more responsibility and fiduciary responsibility than he anticipated. Nonetheless, he’s a wiley guy. He has an endgame in mind and he’s working very hard, this season, to achieve that.
With everyone seemingly hooked on Jesus this season, will that continue to be a thorn in Boyd’s side, or will he be able to use that to his advantage, in some way?
GOGGINS: When they first pitched this idea and Graham [Yost] wrote that first episode, what intrigued me about it, more than anything, was Boyd’s fear of going into church. There’s one scene in the second episode where he’s snappy with everyone, including Ava, and he says, “I don’t like churches.” He has a reason for that. He feels, on one level, like he was misled or misguided, or that God turned his back on him. He feels like a hypocrite. He feels a lot of different things. So, the religious aspect of the show will really make Boyd question where he’s come from and how he views the institution. It will hopefully solidify his idea, one way or the other, about which direction he’s going to go. I think those are larger themes that play into where we would like to take the show, ultimately, and what Boyd has to say about life, through the culmination of all his experiences. That’s a very good question.